What Women Really Want
Over the years, I’ve had the same When Harry Met Sally-esque conversation with my various guy friends over and over again. I’ve had it and decided it’s about time to put an end to this discussion, once and for all.
The debate never changes, the words just rearrange. Things like the dreaded “friend zone”, “nice guy” and questions like “Why do women want a guy who treats her like shit?” are rephrased and repeated ad nauseum.
It’s difficult to convince these guys that women don’t actually want a guy who treats them like shit. I can understand that.
One reason is that, on the surface, this does very much seems to be the case, as women do often shack up with the jerk that sleeps with her best friend instead of the sweet guy friend who has been in love with her for ages. My friends cite comedic movies to hit their points home, like My Best Friend’s Girl starring the very sexy Dane Cook as the outrageously manipulative asshole lead character, anything starring Vince Vaughn, or The 40 Year Old Virgin with the hilarious Steve Carrel as the hopelessly timid and virginal main character.
Before I go on, let me just say that I am actually on your side. You. The guys I am about to school.
First of all.
You are most likely some woman’s jerk. Did you know that? Whether it was a casual high school nerdy chick that you ditched to moon over some hot babe cheerleader you would never get; your first serious girlfriend that you never truly loved but promised the stars to; or the girl who adored YOU and you ignored because she wasn’t what you were looking for at the time. Maybe it was something as simple as leaving someone that did love you, in a determined quest for the unrequited love of this chick whose supposed bad taste in men leaves you tormented. Whatever the case may be, you were someones jerk. So, bearing that in mind, let’s move ahead.
Here are my thoughts as an attractive young woman; I’ve seen, known, spoken with and observed more than my fair share of jerks. Let me tell you something…as usual, guys, you’re looking for the easy explanation where one doesn’t exist. The quick fix. That thinking is just the beginning of the problem. It is a lot easier to say that all women are just attracted to the jerks than to take a look at yourself and think it might actually have something to do with you.
Let’s quickly review one of the movies given as an example of the women-only-attracted-to-total-assholes theory.
My Best Friend’s Girl starred Dane Cook and co-starred Kate Hudson as the inevitable love interest. It is a MOVIE, so Kate Hudson’s character is the perfect woman; smart, beautiful, classy and yet naughty, with a rockin’ body and great sense of humor. She had no flaws, except her near virginity which she is anxious to shed (did I say flaw?) and is only waiting around for the right guy to sweep her off her feet. The guy in love with her, Dustin, is a whiny, self-sacrificing, insecure doormat and his best friend is (drum roll please) Dane Cook, playing the sadistic misogynist with a heart of gold.

First things first. Many guys align themselves with the lovelorn Dustin’s attempt to woo the perfect Alexis (Kate Hudson) and her obvious lack of desire for him, despite his bending over backwards to make her happy. They see that and get ten kinds of over-excited.
“Well, that is exactly what happens. You treat a girl like crap and she likes you. Treat her like a princess and she hates you.”
Umm, no. Not so much.
How about this? Women (like men) are attracted to confidence. Woman want a man who does sweet things, most certainly. We DO like being treated with thoughtfulness and gentleness…but by a strong man with a mind of his own, not a pushover. There is a difference. In the movie, Dane Cook has an excellent monologue, that sums up my whole point in a succinct, vicious nutshell.
I wanted to post the quote here, but I can’t find it anywhere on the dad-blasted Internet and my friend’s copy of the movie seems to be misplaced somewhere. So, paraphrasing here, the point Dane’s character, Tank, made to the insecure, befuddled Dustin, is straightforward enough. He simply says that Dusty’s smothering with love behavior isn’t indicative of his true self and is therefore, a sham. As such, the girl doesn’t get to know him anyway and naturally rejects the guy not secure enough to be himself. Furthermore, he’s been “in love” (quotes were Tank’s, not mine) with quite a few girls and had it turn out this way. Tank attempts to make this Dusty’s wake-up call, but to no avail.
Unfortunately, confidence is often easily confused with bravado, arrogance or cockiness. None of those things are true confidence and they tend to be traits that lead you to the jerkiest of jerks. Hence, the general idea that women want an asshole.
Well, no, most of them don’t. Nearly all of us want the love story. Whichever romantic plot will do, they’re like expensive cars, you’re not really going to turn down one when it’s handed to you.
What’s your fate, little girl? See behind door number 1, 2, or 3, your choice. Cue Jeopardy music. The bad boy with a heart of gold, changing only when he finds his heart hopelessly ensnared by special you; the prince who forsakes everything in order to spend the rest of his life with you; the man whose still waters do run deep; or just that stranger who ran into you with a cup of hot coffee in his hand and you ended up spending an entire night walking and talking on the streets of your city…whatever the fantasy is, don’t judge it too harshly, boys.
You’ve got some pretty ridiculous ones of your own. A gorgeous woman, with the rack of a goddess but Adam Sandler’s sense of humor, smart but not too cynical, dressy but quick about it, seen not often heard, full of praise and low on criticism, and loves nothing more than to please you in bed, whenever and however you feel like it. These are, of course, adaptable depending on level of maturity and how many times the guy’s been burned. Toward the end, you’re just hoping for someone who will agree on the same TV shows you do.
I’ve deviated from my point here, so I’m going to sum this up. Basically, all you guys lamenting over the fact that your personal Kate Hudson, Jennifer Aniston or Catherine Zeta Jones won’t stop going after the jerk/asshole and ignoring you in the process, think again before the next whine comes out of your mouth. If you don’t like you, no one else will either. I had to come to terms with it and so will you.
I can consider myself an expert here, because I’ve played all positions in this game. I’ve been the wallflower nerd with smarts (basically all my school years), I’ve adored someone unachievable from a distance, I’ve been a hottie with a heart of gold and filled with naivete, and I’ve been the smarter, choosier, knowledgeable and attractive woman. I’m telling you, take your own personal journey now. Learn to look in the mirror, assess all the bad and good qualities, set aside the bad, shake yo ass and show ‘em what you’re working with. If you don’t spend every minute wondering when if you’ll ever get laid, or pining away after someone, you’ll be amazed at how appealing that mind set can be to whomever you wish to attract. Yes, obviously, looks matter, but far, far less than you’d think.
Oh, and speaking of looks mattering, one last little rant before I go.
Guys, you have it remarkably easy, I must say. Beauty and the Beast ring a bell? You don’t have to look good to get an attractive woman. Why do you hear the constant question, “How did that guy get HER?” Sure sometimes it’s because she’s a shameless gold-digger and he’s blissfully willing to buy his happiness. However, most often, it is because he believes in himself. His game worked because it was real. For women, the unfairness only continues. If you’re slightly overweight and/or unattractive, as a woman, you’re fighting a much harder battle. As usual, guys get off easy. No period, pregnancy, or menopause. What, you lose your freaking hair? Whatevs. So, stop your bitching.
You can be the guy the girls want, without being an asshole. It’s just whether or not you’re too lazy to make the necessary changes to do so.
So, thee is always more to the story, right? I, of course, being tall, dark and handsome have never encountered this sort of insecurity (whatev!).
Humor works, right?
Oh, and I am so glad that I am NOT a woman. Too much pressure, blood and pain.
Okay, I have snuck in, and now I will slip away quietly. Bye-bye!
*P.S. – Not really tall, dark or handsome.
Humor most definitely works! I look for humor first, personally. I love, love, love to laugh.
Yes, you should be glad you’re not a women. The highs are nice but those lows…man, they’ll kick your slowly growing behind.
Thanks for stopping by, love the comments you leave.
AAAh YEES! NINJA KID. It was brilliant, to the point, and well worth the wait. I am 34 w a baby face and recently single. I have tried to say this to sooo many of my friends but have never been able to. You are a wonderful writer an I’m glad we discovered each other how ever we did on twitter. You are one of ny original FavTWEEPS Ya HEARD MAY!
Keep on keepin on Sista!!
Thank you, Shawn! I’m not only glad to hear that it was worth the wait, but excited to see so many guys agreeing with me. Maybe I hit a hot button topic in the male world. You’re a great tweep and thanks for stopping by to comment. I’m going for blog posts galore this weekend, so keep your eyes peeled. Trying to make up for my terribly long absence from the blogging world.
You’re obviously in your “hottie” phase now.
LOL – Thanks, Kruiser. I thought it was the attractive woman phase. Hottie is much nicer to hear. I think it’s telling that I get such a kick out of that…
This wasn’t really your point, but this bit – “…you’re just hoping for someone who will agree on the same TV shows you do” – reminded me of one of my favorite bits in the movie Singles:
Janet: I wanted a guy with Iooks, security, caring. Someone with their own place. Someone who said “bless you” or “gesundheit” when I sneezed. Someone who liked the same
things as me, but not exactly. And someone who loves me.
Steve: Tall order.
Janet: Yeah, I scaled it back a little.
Steve: What is it now?
Janet: Someone who says “gesundheit”
Oo, I like that! I definitely corresponds to my point as far as lowering your expectations as your experience all that life has to offer as far as dating goes. Thanks!
Dead on, Jen. In Hs, because I was so much younger than my classmates, I was very insecure. I was one of those guys wondering why the “hot girls” went out with jerks. Looking back, I can think of at least two girls who liked me, but I was their jerk, as you put it.
You’ve also hit on the answer to the mystery of why women come out of the woodwork when a guy is in a serious relationship. It’s because the guy is being himself, as much or more as because women now see him as “safe”.
Chris
Very true regarding the attached man = women-after-him syndrome. I didn’t even hit on that, but it’s definitely related. Women see a man at ease, maybe already a doting father and feel an attraction. It’s also telling, though, that the opposite isn’t true. Men, most usually, see women with children and detour away.
It’s my hope, not my belief, that for the most part, we all try to stay away from already committed people. I’ve watched that train wreck from all positions too, and that path results in nothing but consequence.
Thanks for the comment, @Cleach_WU!
Jen,
Thank you so much for writing this.
Dave
Well done Jen! “You are most likely some woman’s jerk” – very insightful.
The rest of it was shit though.
Are you being my jerk, Michael? Awww, how sweet.
(smiley face)
Adam Sandler’s sense of humor
I don’t care how “perfect” a woman is in every other way; if she had anything to do with “Little Nicky”, I’m done with her.
Little Nicky… *shudder* Gawd, that was awful. Well, there are exceptions to every rule, Mitch, but we’re talking in generalizations out of necessity here. You can substitute Adam Sandler’s sense of humor with “Paul Rudd’s sense of humor” if you’d like. My point is the same.
Hi, nice post. I have been wondering about this issue,so thanks for blogging. I’ll probably be subscribing to your blog. Keep up the good work
3x married … divorced with children to raise. At 45 all I want to add is that I believe I’ve seen most of the contrasts in the male species. What I want, now:
1) able and willing to discuss anything (open heart)
2) giving lover (not selfish in bed)
3) thoughtful and caring
4) humorous (BIG because life has enough stress on its own)
5) THE ONE YOU HIT ON THE HEAD: you have to like yourself first … if that’s not there first, it really does show, especially if you have children together and are unable to put the needs of dependents first. Children are a reflection of YOU, the ones who created them. At least know who you are and like what you see … you’ll see it in them and fall in love all over again.
What an epiphany to re-visit the past and marvel at how manyh women’s jerk I must be.
Mike
Must be nice to have something to ponder. There is more where that came from.